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Thu, Mar. 2nd, 2006, 10:07 am
lehulei: NERO® International Holding Co., Inc. - LARP Projects & Jeremie Collins Statements

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Joseph Valenti
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1:39 am (8 hours ago)
The Live Adventures Company

NERO® International Holding Co., Inc.

New York 10566

(914) 328-9123 Office

(914) 309-7718 Mobile



March 2, 2006



RE: Jeremie Collins Statements



Please disregard any statements made by Jeremie Collins regarding NERO®
International Holding Co., Inc., its projects, and/or its business
endeavors.



After being a NERO® Chapter owner for several years, and reporting an
average of less than 1 event per year with less than 10 people attending,
Jeremie has decided to depart the NERO® Organization. We freely allow
Jeremie to depart from NERO and run his own LARP game. Among other things,
Mr. Collins is expected to act like a professional and make no more false or
misleading comments regarding NERO Business.



Sadly, it appears to me that he is now on a rampage to discredit my efforts,
my reputation, and the endeavors that I find myself in support of.



Hopefully - Jeremie Collins will not make any more comments in public
regarding NERO® International Holding Co., Inc. and its projects.



I am forced to ignore most of the statements made by him toward me in public
but I will respond to the inaccurate statements regarding LARP Business
endeavors that I am working on.



Joseph Valenti

President of NERO®



PS: It is a shame that LARPA has allowed people like Mr. Ventrella and now
Mr. Collins to use this list to victimize the President of the largest LARP
Company in America, and maybe the World, with negative and derogatory
statements. I am sure that the owner of larpland - dot - com will now chime
in and make some statements too. I wonder if Jeremie was responding now to a
long ago letter that the larpland guy wrote. It would make me laugh to know
the truth.



Note that no other person has been victimized by any other participant on
this mailing list.



Sincerely

Joseph Valenti
President

Lascivio Est Res - "The Play's the Thing"

NERO® is the Registered Trademark of NERO International Holding Co., Inc.
USPTO registration number 2,270,409
Unauthorized use of the NERO Name, NERO Logo, NERO Rule Book© or NERO Game
System© is strictly prohibited.


The NERO Rule Book© is Copyrighted 1988-2006 by NERO International Holding
Co., Inc., All Rights Reserved.
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You have got to be kidding me.

Thu, Mar. 2nd, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC)
chinaraven

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As I see it - Jeremie crossed the line and evidently decided to check out the opportunity to be an alliance owner... course looking at the alliance forums it is a bit of a surprise to Ventrella.

Outside of that - I'm unaware of what appears to be melodrama that's been festerding.

Thu, Mar. 2nd, 2006 07:40 pm (UTC)
larpguide

There is currently a discussion in the mailing group about the LARPY Awards that Joe V's company is putting together as well as his turning the US wide game of Conquest America into Everquest Live Action with a partnership with SOE (there used to be a site to it at www.playeverquestlive.com but when I pointed out to Joe that he has basically changed direction in mid stream with Conquest America in being a 'created by the players for the players' world into Norrath and hard set doctrine, he pulled it down citing to me that their plan is to start this next year.

Jeremie noted that the star studded lineup for the LARPY's that you see on the home page can be a bit misleading as it notes that only invitations to the awards have been sent out to these people - which I could have an event company do for me for my birthday party - it doesn't guarantee attendance. In fact, I feel that there would be a big neon sign on the front page saying "William Shatner in attendance!" if they have RSVP'd.

Also the fact that the website has mispelled a couple of the artists that they are voting for awards.

As for Conquest America, Jeremie seems a little upset that this won't just be a massive NERO game. But as Joe's intent is to integrate the two major LARPing styles here in the US (Boffer fantasy and Vampire WoD), they will need to make a simplistic new set of rules to get everyone involved and not have things bogged down by a brand new intricate ruleset that the players haven't tried until the DAY of the event.

Wed, Apr. 5th, 2006 12:35 am (UTC)
lehulei: On the topic of Conquest America -

Last fall, when it was first announce, I thought it was a cool idea. But then everything kept getting pushed back. The vendor applications, the rulebook, the pre-registration deadlines. I would have maybe been interested in attending before, due to the fact that I live in IL, like LARP, and have at least been to the site (which is an RV park, by the way, for those of you who don't know). But anyways...after months and months of no rules, and no response to my merchant inquiries, I decided "to hell with you people." I don't see how JV & DC actually expect people to fork over that much money to GM/NPC/PC/whatever if they don't even have a *basic* set of rules to look at.

I finally got *A* response to one of my merchant inquiries in January. Four months later. I was told I'd be sent a copy of the packet as soon as it came out, and it should be ready in a few days. The Merchant Information was finally posted on the site mid-February, a few weeks after said e-mail correspondance. Yup, still haven't recieved that e-mail. But hey, who cares at this point?

Last I checked, rules were still being asked for, and still not recieved. Ho hum.

Pick a project JV. One stepping stone at a time. You don't have that much free time. Or at least you shouldn't. That whole, Live Adventures Company/LARP Awards/Lawsuit/Harassing prospective Alliance owners/Nationwide LARP event thing. Bite > Chew.

Wed, Apr. 5th, 2006 01:12 am (UTC)
larpguide: Re: On the topic of Conquest America -

To me, the impression Joe is currently making is that of a kid on way too much sugar. He's running around from convention to convention, talking up a storm, making contacts, making plans etc. without really much regard to the industry or the populace therein. He then asks them to hop on board after the plans are 'set' and feels that if you don't, or especially if you object to his tactics, that you are not helping to promote LARPing.

Joe is just starting a lawsuit that could cost him $50K+ (his estimate, not mine). If he loses, it will probably cost him even more. The LARPies are going to cost him another $50-75K (again, his estimate) and I believe that he also attached a $50K pricetag to Conquest America. This, to me, shows a reckless business plan. To set dates on events without having most of the details firmed up (sorry, but a national LARP without having the ruleset done?) is irresponsible. To be spending so much money on events (not counting his many conventions he flies to and attends as well as games he attends) while his company is in a lawsuit is reckless.

If he had any business sense at all, he'd cancel both the LARPies and Conquest America, get his own house in order, plan for the events next year and have the groundwork from this year to help him along. That way, by this time next year, the rules, vendors and all the other logistics would be handled for the game and the categories, hall rental, etc. for the LARPies would be done as well.

Instead, he charges on, head first, with his ideals of what LARPing should be and having the funds and time to do it too (sort of like Bill Gates). It is this reckless business ethic that makes me shudder that he is the 'face' of the LARPing community to the gaming populace at large.

Thu, Mar. 2nd, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC)
larpguide: Just wanted to be certain before I posted...

I went back and checked the postings and although Joe discredits Jeremie quite a bit in this email, he does not address any of the issues that Jeremie brought up in his postings. He just says that he is (for all intents and purposes) lying but won't tell his side.

This seems to be a style with Joe. He will say something isn't true but won't address the issue or give any details.
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Wed, Apr. 5th, 2006 12:26 am (UTC)
lehulei: Re: Larp Awards -Last peice

Oh shush you're not a villain. ^_^

Yeah, their site looks non-ghetto now, and blah blah blah. It's flashy and has repetitive music that gets annoying the umpteenth million time you've heard it. I looked at venue's site. Their biggest space they list can only hold like 1100 people. What happened to the super larp convention extravaganza JV was talking about?

On a side note, I hear all you need is cash now to open a NERO International chapter. No plot, plot team, or starting capitol. Get 'em while they're hot =P.

P.S.

JC, when are you going to get your butt back to Chronicles and PC with us ^_^ You never did get to play with us "big kids". I don't think I even *saw* you IG. Too bad Varos is gone though ;x